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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/wp-content/plugins/identicon/f96a6608828f287.png" alt="admin Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, women. I do agonize over things too much, very true, twitch!  Thanks for the encouragement.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, women. I do agonize over things too much, very true, twitch!  Thanks for the encouragement.  <img src='http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/wp-content/plugins/identicon/6cbbb0047f12930.png" alt="Mary Sunshine Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> Mary Sunshine</title>
		<link>http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/10/08/moderation/#comment-20120</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rubber stamp for what Twitch said.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rubber stamp for what Twitch said.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/wp-content/plugins/identicon/f767d6db0e74dc1.png" alt="twitch Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> twitch</title>
		<link>http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/10/08/moderation/#comment-20114</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heart,
I return to this blog again and again because for the most part people discuss things in a civil, thoughtful way here.  I think we all appreciate how much work that entails on your part with the moderating, editing, etc.  My only suggestion would be that you stop agonizing and expending your energy worrying about being fair.  Just block things quickly.  I think the discussions won't suffer.  And best of luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heart,<br />
I return to this blog again and again because for the most part people discuss things in a civil, thoughtful way here.  I think we all appreciate how much work that entails on your part with the moderating, editing, etc.  My only suggestion would be that you stop agonizing and expending your energy worrying about being fair.  Just block things quickly.  I think the discussions won&#8217;t suffer.  And best of luck!</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/wp-content/plugins/identicon/4e0e64fb085ffe2.png" alt="CoolAunt Identicon Icon" height="25" width="25" /> CoolAunt</title>
		<link>http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/10/08/moderation/#comment-20109</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Cool Aunt, I meant to say, yeah, I have probably spammed 50 pro Max Hardcore pieces of filth in the last week and a lot of other filth too that I won’t get into right now.  Of course, I don’t read all that stuff carefully, but just seeing it is demoralizing.  I don’t think I have to “document” that kind of crap.  It’s well documented throughout the universe.
It’s feminism I am interested in documenting.
This comments problem is one of the reasons bb stopped blogging."
Hey, I'm glad you don't document that garbage. And if you did, I can tell you with near 100% certainty that I wouldn't read it. (I leave a fraction of 1% wiggle room in the event that an online friend asked me to read a BS comment.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cool Aunt, I meant to say, yeah, I have probably spammed 50 pro Max Hardcore pieces of filth in the last week and a lot of other filth too that I won’t get into right now.  Of course, I don’t read all that stuff carefully, but just seeing it is demoralizing.  I don’t think I have to “document” that kind of crap.  It’s well documented throughout the universe.<br />
It’s feminism I am interested in documenting.<br />
This comments problem is one of the reasons bb stopped blogging.&#8221;<br />
Hey, I&#8217;m glad you don&#8217;t document that garbage. And if you did, I can tell you with near 100% certainty that I wouldn&#8217;t read it. (I leave a fraction of 1% wiggle room in the event that an online friend asked me to read a BS comment.)</p>
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		<link>http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/10/08/moderation/#comment-20076</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate that it is difficult to moderate your fine blog. And right now, you need another person to comment on how you moderate your blog, like you need a hole in the head. However, it bothers me that some of your posters (it happens to be Satsuma right now) are allowed to make comments that are hurtful to other posters/readers (Mary Sunshine for one) and partly because they disregard (don't try to understand) other poster's views and feelings altogether. I should read your policy for the making of comments to your blog, for the section on "being considerate of other people's feelings". Even if your blog was only a place for discussing radical feminism theory (which is the writing style Satsuma uses), feelings are involved in how the ideas are communicated. Hope that makes sense. It won't bother me if you leave my comment out. Just needed to express this and to let you know what one (probably more) lurkers (of this particular blog posting) are thinking. I don't want to add to the con side of your deliberation about keeping the comments. I find the comments in blogs enhance the blog. Even the struggles for understanding, as is happening right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate that it is difficult to moderate your fine blog. And right now, you need another person to comment on how you moderate your blog, like you need a hole in the head. However, it bothers me that some of your posters (it happens to be Satsuma right now) are allowed to make comments that are hurtful to other posters/readers (Mary Sunshine for one) and partly because they disregard (don&#8217;t try to understand) other poster&#8217;s views and feelings altogether. I should read your policy for the making of comments to your blog, for the section on &#8220;being considerate of other people&#8217;s feelings&#8221;. Even if your blog was only a place for discussing radical feminism theory (which is the writing style Satsuma uses), feelings are involved in how the ideas are communicated. Hope that makes sense. It won&#8217;t bother me if you leave my comment out. Just needed to express this and to let you know what one (probably more) lurkers (of this particular blog posting) are thinking. I don&#8217;t want to add to the con side of your deliberation about keeping the comments. I find the comments in blogs enhance the blog. Even the struggles for understanding, as is happening right now.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: feminisms, I am not convinced that accusing antisubordination feminists of hating success is less offensive than accusing antisubordination feminists of hating sex. 

That's not an argument about anything. I certainly don't know wtf I'd do if I were in charge of moderating here, and I also don't think that's relevant. Heart has to make tough decisions about how to make her space into what she wants it to be in the face of a lot of people who want it to be something else entirely, for one reason or another. Many of whom are willing to entirely disregard things like her clearly stated wishes, as laid out in her moderation policy. 

Good luck, Heart. in the end, the only right decision is the one that seems &lt;em&gt;worth &lt;/em&gt;it, to &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: feminisms, I am not convinced that accusing antisubordination feminists of hating success is less offensive than accusing antisubordination feminists of hating sex. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not an argument about anything. I certainly don&#8217;t know wtf I&#8217;d do if I were in charge of moderating here, and I also don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s relevant. Heart has to make tough decisions about how to make her space into what she wants it to be in the face of a lot of people who want it to be something else entirely, for one reason or another. Many of whom are willing to entirely disregard things like her clearly stated wishes, as laid out in her moderation policy. </p>
<p>Good luck, Heart. in the end, the only right decision is the one that seems <em>worth </em>it, to <em>you</em>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>" It was about each woman speaking her own truth ... and then to strategize solutions and support one another in making those solutions a reality."

I really like this Heart.  I'm going to keep it.

Re: comments.  I see it largely as the dilemma of herstory: to remember or to invent?  If we remember too much we remain too entrenched for discourse.  I don't mind that some comments stay in neverland.  (though it is not neverland to you Heart and that's bothersome--maybe you could just e-mail them back to the commenter and never look at them again?). 
If we invent peace do we then remember peace?  Do we have to remember everything?  A question of set backs or jumping off points, I wonder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; It was about each woman speaking her own truth &#8230; and then to strategize solutions and support one another in making those solutions a reality.&#8221;</p>
<p>I really like this Heart.  I&#8217;m going to keep it.</p>
<p>Re: comments.  I see it largely as the dilemma of herstory: to remember or to invent?  If we remember too much we remain too entrenched for discourse.  I don&#8217;t mind that some comments stay in neverland.  (though it is not neverland to you Heart and that&#8217;s bothersome&#8211;maybe you could just e-mail them back to the commenter and never look at them again?).<br />
If we invent peace do we then remember peace?  Do we have to remember everything?  A question of set backs or jumping off points, I wonder.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Cool Aunt, I meant to say, yeah, I have probably spammed 50 pro Max Hardcore pieces of filth in the last week and a lot of other filth too that I won’t get into right now."

I'm sorry to hear you have to cull through that dreck.  Anyone who would defend a woman hating, rapist cretin like Hardcore isn't worth reading.  

I agree with Faith and others:  your blog, your choice.  Moderate however you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cool Aunt, I meant to say, yeah, I have probably spammed 50 pro Max Hardcore pieces of filth in the last week and a lot of other filth too that I won’t get into right now.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear you have to cull through that dreck.  Anyone who would defend a woman hating, rapist cretin like Hardcore isn&#8217;t worth reading.  </p>
<p>I agree with Faith and others:  your blog, your choice.  Moderate however you like.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to write to say thanks for your brave way that you moderate.

I find that you allow many voices of feminism is very interesting, and may, if preserved, be one record of recent feminisms, and how it is constantly changing and staying the same.

I really hope that my words have not caused you a lot of stress, especially with hateful words from the pro-sex industry lobby and "feminists".

I know you have been protecting survivors of the sex trade from their lies and very damaging attacks. It is very hurtful, but like most women who exited the sex trade I had to live tough, so I have many barriers to their attempts to undermine my views.

So if you ever need support, I will do what I can.

After all that is the least I can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to write to say thanks for your brave way that you moderate.</p>
<p>I find that you allow many voices of feminism is very interesting, and may, if preserved, be one record of recent feminisms, and how it is constantly changing and staying the same.</p>
<p>I really hope that my words have not caused you a lot of stress, especially with hateful words from the pro-sex industry lobby and &#8220;feminists&#8221;.</p>
<p>I know you have been protecting survivors of the sex trade from their lies and very damaging attacks. It is very hurtful, but like most women who exited the sex trade I had to live tough, so I have many barriers to their attempts to undermine my views.</p>
<p>So if you ever need support, I will do what I can.</p>
<p>After all that is the least I can do.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heart, this seems like an enormous undertaking. That said. I learn as much from the comments as I do from the posts. 

This gets me thinking about the ways women treat each other.  A Womens's Studies professor I know says at the start of each class, she has the students decide how they will treat each other and what is and is not acceptable.  She anticipates heated  discussions, because looking at sexism can bring up strong emotions. 

Maybe we should talk about how we want to be treated and how  to treat each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heart, this seems like an enormous undertaking. That said. I learn as much from the comments as I do from the posts. </p>
<p>This gets me thinking about the ways women treat each other.  A Womens&#8217;s Studies professor I know says at the start of each class, she has the students decide how they will treat each other and what is and is not acceptable.  She anticipates heated  discussions, because looking at sexism can bring up strong emotions. </p>
<p>Maybe we should talk about how we want to be treated and how  to treat each other.</p>
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