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	<title>Comments on: Shackling Birthing Inmates Doesn&#8217;t Violate Eighth Amendment, Eighth Circuit Says</title>
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	<description>WRITING THE LONGEST REVOLUTION</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/08/06/shackling-birthing-birthing-inmates-doesnt-violate-eighth-amendment-eighth-circuit-says/#comment-17988</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 05:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, funnie-- actually, it was "identity fraud" and hot checks.  Who knows that might mean.  Maybe she used  an abusive ex's credit card or checks without his permission for all the frap we know,   and he was all over that. Yeah, put her in jail right quick, chain her up!    

You got it Allecto.  Also, this is so exhibit A of patriarchy's reverence and honor towards mothers, is it not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, funnie&#8211; actually, it was &#8220;identity fraud&#8221; and hot checks.  Who knows that might mean.  Maybe she used  an abusive ex&#8217;s credit card or checks without his permission for all the frap we know,   and he was all over that. Yeah, put her in jail right quick, chain her up!    </p>
<p>You got it Allecto.  Also, this is so exhibit A of patriarchy&#8217;s reverence and honor towards mothers, is it not.</p>
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		<title>By: allecto</title>
		<link>http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/08/06/shackling-birthing-birthing-inmates-doesnt-violate-eighth-amendment-eighth-circuit-says/#comment-17987</link>
		<dc:creator>allecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fucking hell. That is so sick/barbaric/fucked up/cruel/hideous, sick, sick, sick. :( 

Can violence against women be anymore blatant than this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fucking hell. That is so sick/barbaric/fucked up/cruel/hideous, sick, sick, sick. :( </p>
<p>Can violence against women be anymore blatant than this?</p>
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		<title>By: radfemprnbashr</title>
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		<dc:creator>radfemprnbashr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just un-fucking-believable.  No doubt some male doctor thought this up and probably gets off on thinking about it later when he's whacking off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just un-fucking-believable.  No doubt some male doctor thought this up and probably gets off on thinking about it later when he&#8217;s whacking off.</p>
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		<title>By: funnie</title>
		<link>http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/08/06/shackling-birthing-birthing-inmates-doesnt-violate-eighth-amendment-eighth-circuit-says/#comment-17980</link>
		<dc:creator>funnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(underscoring your point IMO) Shawanna Nelson was serving a sentence for entirely nonviolent crimes,  quite possibly need-driven crimes specifically related to the urgency of poverty + pregnancy (though I don't know any of that): credit card "fraud" (and who knows exactly what is meant by THAT) and writing "hot checks." 

HOT CHECKS! Fer cryin' out loud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(underscoring your point IMO) Shawanna Nelson was serving a sentence for entirely nonviolent crimes,  quite possibly need-driven crimes specifically related to the urgency of poverty + pregnancy (though I don&#8217;t know any of that): credit card &#8220;fraud&#8221; (and who knows exactly what is meant by THAT) and writing &#8220;hot checks.&#8221; </p>
<p>HOT CHECKS! Fer cryin&#8217; out loud.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.womensspace.org/phpBB2/2008/08/06/shackling-birthing-birthing-inmates-doesnt-violate-eighth-amendment-eighth-circuit-says/#comment-17975</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other thing with respect to women in prison is, so many are in prison for what amounts to health issues, i.e., substance abuse and surrounding issues), for having been prostituted (sometimes they are then designated "sexual offenders" (!)), or for defending themselves against violent men.  To chain them during birthing is a hideous abuse, they are no danger to anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other thing with respect to women in prison is, so many are in prison for what amounts to health issues, i.e., substance abuse and surrounding issues), for having been prostituted (sometimes they are then designated &#8220;sexual offenders&#8221; (!)), or for defending themselves against violent men.  To chain them during birthing is a hideous abuse, they are no danger to anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jokerine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jokerine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You report a on a lot of injustices to women, both in the USoA and elswhere. Eventhough the constant stream of misogyny has made me somwhat numb this post elicits a violent reaction. The thought of beeing chained while birthing nearly made me vomit.

Otherwise I am free of insightful comments. Really I can not imagine what sick mind would come up with such punishment. Certainly this person cannot be considred pro-life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You report a on a lot of injustices to women, both in the USoA and elswhere. Eventhough the constant stream of misogyny has made me somwhat numb this post elicits a violent reaction. The thought of beeing chained while birthing nearly made me vomit.</p>
<p>Otherwise I am free of insightful comments. Really I can not imagine what sick mind would come up with such punishment. Certainly this person cannot be considred pro-life.</p>
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		<title>By: Hecate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hecate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would go one step further and say that wymmyn should never go to prison.  Ever.  There is no womyn who ever committed a crime that a man did not force her to.  Look at your previous entry:  Mary Winkler is a killer, no one denies that.  That much is forgivable.  What is unforgivable is that a man forced her to become one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would go one step further and say that wymmyn should never go to prison.  Ever.  There is no womyn who ever committed a crime that a man did not force her to.  Look at your previous entry:  Mary Winkler is a killer, no one denies that.  That much is forgivable.  What is unforgivable is that a man forced her to become one.</p>
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